Unless the architect or builder are prepared to guarantee the concrete and tile baptistry will not leak (and not need regrouting!) in under 10 (or 25) years, don’t bother!
Our fibreglass baptistries mean less fuss and cost at installation as the unit comes as a whole. Insulation is built in, the walls need no additional support, and the reinforced lids can take the whole choir! And our fibreglass baptistries need no maintenance for years to come. The baptistry is guaranteed for 10 years, though it will probably last well over 25 years.
Concrete pools are poorly insulated, if at all. Ours come with 50mm of insulation built in as standard. Heating the water in concrete and tile pools is expensive and wasteful as you end up heating the concrete as well as the water. The fibreglass lids can be put over the tank whilst filling and heating to keep in the heat and, unlike wood, will not swell and warp. Even treated timber starts to swell once the varnish wears.
GRP pools do not need maintenance (other than an occasional wipe down). The grouting between tiles soon attracts mould and we have phone calls from churches with leaky tiled baptistries at the rate of one a month. It isn’t just a false economy, it’s no saving at all to have a concrete and tile baptistry.
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Building a tank in GRP is far better than in concrete and tile – for you and the user! It is cheaper in terms of getting a finished baptistry and in ongoing maintenance. Short of an occasional wash down, the GRP needs no maintenance. Whereas tiled baptistries need regrouting and their failure keeps us in business.
A fibreglass tank is also quicker to install. All it needs is a concrete pad on which to sit and the finished pool can sit on top and will take the weight of the water. And it is insulated as standard. So, savings can be made at the installation stage too.
And the filling and emptying can be as simple or complex as you wish. And as cheap or expensive as you want.
When it comes to emptying a baptistry, the most common way is to use a submersible sump pump. There are many reasons why churches go down this route. Sometimes, it is because the levels are wrong so gravity drainage isn’t an option. But it is just as common to find that the church are unwilling to have plumbing under the baptistry that they may not be able to get at and which may start leaking at some point in the future.
From the point of view of cost of the baptistry itself, it doesn’t make any difference whether a pool is drained through a plug-hole or a sump pump – it is just a minor tweak in moulding. For the church, the pump and pipe option can very often be the cheaper option. There are options when it comes to deciding where to get the pump to empty to – down a loo, down an existing drain, or down a purpose-made extension to the foulwater drain.
The picture here shows the water being pumped out to a stack (rather like the back of a washing machine) that is hidden beneath a service hatch. The same service hatch houses the valve to turn the water supply on to fill the baptistry.
For a neater look, the same camlocks that clamp the pipe to the pump, can be used at the other end to clamp the pipe to the drain. (This can also be applied to overflows too, ask about this if it is something of interest!)
If access to the underside of the baptistry and its plumbing is not easy or downright impossible, the pump and pipe method offers a low-cost, low-worry option with extremely low installation costs.
As we can mould any baptistry to suit, we can build in the drainage, filling and overflow options you’d like to see and, most times, there is no cost implication.
Fibreglass (GRP) is such a wonderfully adaptable material for use in building, architecture and engineering. If you would like sheets of brickwork to give you the look of a brick wall quickly and cheaply (and without the weight!), then we can help. These can be supplied either as sheets or made up as walls (pictured). We also make sheets of fibreglass tiles so you can tile whole walls in minutes. Painted wood effect panels is another favourite!
We can also incorporate metal-effect films into the GRP allowing us to make signs or plaques (or whatever takes your fancy!) that appear to be brass or bronze, for example.
We’ve already done the jokes about Charlotte Chapel being the Non-conformist cousin of Charlotte Church, but here she is. Not long out of the mould, trimmed and still dusty, she is waiting to have her lids fitted and checked. This is quite a broad baptistry (2.0m x 2.4m) and is a little out-of-the-ordinary for having the steps within the pool. A removable stainless steel handrail will be fitted to the side of the steps.
I’ve put together a sheet of useful background information for when you’re designing, or discussing designs for, a church baptistry. It is aimed at architects, builders and anyone in the church leading a project. The design of a church baptistry can be very flexible (without certain constraints), often with little or no price implication. However, you need to know where to start. We have had one or two enquiries over the years from builders/architects who have gone too far down a cul-de-sac.
The link below opens the PDF.
We reinforce the lids with timber struts for narrower pools but for wider ones, we will used a compressed box-section tubing made of compressed fibreglass because it is lighter and stronger than the matching dimension in timber. And it is certainly lighter and a LOT cheaper than using steel or aluminium.
The added advantage of GRP is that it will not swell or warp as wood can do. And, in terms of finish, we can make them in any colour, or you can stick carpet or wood tiles directly to the lids.
There will always be some flexing in the lids when one walks on them, though usually this only becomes even noticeable once the lid gets above 1.7m long. We add more reinforcing to keep the flex to a minimum, and certainly to no more than 3mm for 200kg standing weight. It will take the weight of the choir or the band! (It is odd that when I mention this, we are always asked if we can build in a trap door…)
Lids are usually 70mm deep but for longer spans we would increase this to 100mm. Conversely, for shorter spans, thinner is possible.
When it comes to lifting them out, we usually put recessed threads in one lid and send a set of eye-bolts with the lids. This way, the eye-bolts can be screwed into the lids and provide finger-holes for the two lifters. Once the first lid is out, the rest can be slid out and lifted.
Whilst GRP as clearly transparent as glass is yet to be invented, translucent GRP has got a lot better. Some transparency is possible so that objects close to the ‘glastic’ are clearly recognizable. And where frosted effects are wanted, its advantages are obvious.
The advantages are that of strength without the weight of glass, for example, should the mood ever take you, you could take a hammer to them! Also, they can be tinted, so rose-tinted baptistries are possible! The added benefit is cost.
The glass could also be used to make splash-proof screens or covers for LED light-boxes or light-weight coloured-‘glass’ windows or numerous other architectural uses within church buildings.
The old way of making a church baptismal was to make a concrete hole, line it with a waterproof membrane and then tile it. Within a few years the grout would be mouldy or, worse still, leaking.
One of the many advantages of a GRP baptistery is that it goes on for years and does not leak and, aside from any plumbing, does not need any maintenance. But would you still like the look of tiles?
Now, the inside of our pre-formed GRP baptistries can be lined with sheets of fibreglass tiles. The Jordan-style baptistries, with the steps as a separate unit which is fixed in place at installation, lends itself well to this tiled finish.
If you would like a tiled look in a toilet/washroom within the church and want it quickly and cheaply, we make the sheets in interlocking sheets approx. 60cm x 60cm, in sheets approx. 120cm x 180cm or to custom sizes.
If you have an existing baptistry of , say, concrete, it may not be practicable to have one of our GRP baptistries made and put in place. There might not be enough room. It might be too difficult to remove the existing steps. Access into the church may be just too difficult or restricted.
Once the tiles have been removed and the concrete surface covered and adapted, we can move on to apply fibreglass and resin gel-coat directly rather than us make up a pre-formed tank back out our factory. An additional advantage is that this finish can be tailored to the baptistry – steps can be easily accommodated and covered. Better still, if there are already plug holes or other plumbing fittings, these can be temporarily removed and the GRP+gel coat finish can go right up to the hole. Once the GRP finish has cured, the fittings can be replaced and waterproofed to a good surface.
If the tank were a concrete pit, it would need to be dry and dust-free.
Whikst not as well insulated as our preformed tanks, our lining introduces some much needed insulation, which is very important with concrete pits, which are difficult to heat
Where it does differ from our pre-formed baptistry tanks is that the finish is not structural or weight-bearing. Whereas our tanks can support lids, these can not. Whereas as our pre-formed tanks will hold the water, this is a ‘skin’ and the load-bearing comes from the surrounding timber or wall. Also, this directly applied GRP has a light texturing and is not mirror flat as those made in a mould. However, as we put a light texture on our steps anyway for increased grip, it is a very minor issue.
Such a finish would be more durable than membrane and tiles and certainly need less maintenance. It will almost certainly be cheaper, certainly in the long-run. If you are a church looking to reline a baptistry, do consider directly-applied fibreglass.