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Baptismal waters revitalise a church

Baptism Joshua Al Saints Lydiard

Ezekiel 47:1

Then he brought me back to the door of the temple, and behold, water was issuing from below the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was flowing down from below the south end of the threshold of the temple, south of the altar.

It’s a phone call no one wants to make and one we very rarely receive. Tudor Roberts at All Saints Lydiard picked up the phone the day before his baptism service to tell us his pool was leaking.

Ruth says “It’s the call we dread. We do everything in our power to prevent this happening and consequently it is a very rare event. But when it does happen my heart sinks into the bottom draw!  Because all we can do on a Saturday is pray for a miracle. It is a funny thing but as I prayed (and I prayed!) I had the really strong sense that God was doing something really special here and I should leave it in his hands. On Monday morning I was so humbled by what God had done.”

Tudor kindly shared his story with us:

“We booked a pool from you two years ago and did a baptism in our churchyard. That was in a United Service when we were part of a local ecumenical project and the Baptist minister did it. I helped put the pool up then and I remember thinking ‘I’d like to do that in my church’.

“Well, two years later we have Joshua Harris who’s 13 – his mother Becky Harris is one of our worship leaders and chose to have a thanksgiving service for her children and wait till they were older rather than baptise them as babies. There was a Confirmation coming up at the end of March nearby at Rodbourne Cheney, so I said, look it would be great if we could do a confirmation preparation course in advance of the confirmation service on 25th March. Having been to Africa and taught the Rooted in Jesus course in Kenya, I used that with adults and with the youth group.

“Out of that course, two adults who’d previously done the Alpha course wanted to be confirmed. Joshua really wanted to be baptised in his own church not elsewhere. So we got the pool in for him, and I was asked “Are you sure it’s going to be alright?” And I may have said “I’m a Vicar, you can trust me” or something like that!

“We also offered a rededication of baptismal vows for people who had been baptised as a baby. Joshua Scellier, who I’d baptised as a baby, said “I‘d like to do that” – he’s in Year two at school. In the meantime, we had lots of young people doing our 12 wk course in the weeks before the service and most of them turned up at the baptism.

“By Saturday 21st March, the baptistry pool was up and ready. On that morning we had our puppet practice and a couple of the kids said, ‘Tudor… it’s leaking!’ I rang up Baptistry UK and they explained that we needed to empty and refill the pool. That afternoon with help from Becky Harris, we emptied it. I wasn‘t best pleased as I saw there was water on the floor in the church! Becky tried to look on the bright side and said maybe it was a fulfilment of the prophecy in Ezekiel that water will come down from the altar.

“We then refilled it but not so high. Becky said I’m going to pray and get my parents to pray and we hoped it would make a difference. And it did because the next day, when we went in, it was much better.

“Everything before this service that could go wrong went wrong. The data stick with the songs on would not work; we managed to get it working eventually. Someone forgot the bread for Holy Communion and I forgot the Baptism certificate. Then during the service an elderly lady collapsed and a paramedic had to be called – luckily she’s fine as it was a hypo glycaemic attack. It was very Vicar of Dibley.

“But what was most amazing was the atmosphere of joy in the church. So many teenagers there were gathering round the pool. We called the two boys being baptised big Josh and little Josh to tell them apart!”

One of Tudor’s parishioners said to him “I thought it was very beautifully done in terms of making both big and little Josh feel that it was a special service for them. It was lovely to have the young people up watching it at the front and it felt like God’s family celebrating something very special this morning.”

Tudor continues, “I think it was a real turning point moment for the church. So by the time I spoke to Baptistry UK on the Monday morning, all my negativity had disappeared and I was so thankful. Our youth work is now growing and we’re hoping to employ a youth worker from September and we’ve just started a new children’s service at 9.15am once a month at which we had 40 people and another service at 10.30am with lots of time for praise and testimony – it just took off and people are asking what’s happening.

“The baptism wasn’t the only thing but it was one of the things that helped an ordinary church like us get new hope in the Gospel.

“Interestingly, a number of other Anglican churches in the Deanery are now looking at baptism by immersion. We may end up buying a pool for the Deanery. Becky said that it just showed how God answers prayer. The immersive baptism was one of those things in recent months that has produced new growth and new hope in our church; some of the other things we’ve done in the last year is we’ve got a new piano, our new toilet is opening soon and now we’re hoping to get a drum kit and a youth worker, we feel reinvigorated in our work.

“Now I understand why Baptist ministers get so happy! We’ll continue to do baptisms for babies of course, but we want to use immersive baptism too now. We’d be happy to use Baptistry UK again.

“The whole service felt different because of the number of young people around and the sheer atmosphere of joy in that part of the church. Our Church origins go all the way back to the 12th Century… but this was something new for us.”

With many thanks to Tudor for sharing his experience with us, it’s a wonderful story of how, even if something goes wrong, baptism can offer rebirth for the whole community, creating a joy and enthusiasm that’s truly invigorating.

We include a puncture repair kit with any hired pool, and if you want complete reassurance, our Galilee and Apostle pools are able to work with a double liner, meaning that – even with a puncture – we’ve never had a leak with a double liner.

Translucent GRP

WClear_near disthilst GRP as clearly transparent as glass is yet to be invented, translucent GRP has got a lot better.  Some transparency is possible so that objects close to the ‘glastic’ are clearly frost fibreglass glassrecognizable.  And where frosted effects are wanted, its advantages are obvious.

The advantages are that of strength without the weight of glass, for example, should the mood ever take you, you could take a hammer to them!  Also, they can be tinted, so rose-tinted baptistries are possible!  The added benefit is cost.

reinforced GRP glass The glass could also be used to make splash-proof screens or covers for LED light-boxes or light-weight coloured-‘glass’ windows or numerous other architectural uses within church buildings.

 

 

 

 

 

Tiled Church Baptistries – Without Tiles!

The old way of making a church baptismal was to make a concrete hole, line it with a waterproof membrane and then tile it.  Within a few years the grout would be mouldy or, worse still, leaking.

One of the many advantages of a GRP baptistery is that it goes on for years and does not leak and, aside from any plumbing, does not need any maintenance.  But would you still like the look of tiles?

Now, the inside of our pre-formed GRP baptistries can be lined with sheets of fibreglass tiles.  The Jordan-style baptistries, with the steps as a separate unit which is fixed in place at installation, lends itself well to this tiled finish.tile effect finish

If you would like a tiled look in a toilet/washroom within the church and want it quickly and cheaply, we make the sheets in interlocking sheets approx. 60cm x 60cm, in sheets approx. 120cm x 180cm or to custom sizes.

Direct Lining of Baptistries

wooden baptistry tank unlinedIf you have an existing baptistry of , say, concrete, it may not be practicable to have one of our GRP baptistries made and put in place.  There might not be enough room.  It might be too difficult to remove the existing steps.  Access into the church may be just too difficult or restricted.   wooden baptistry tank lined

Once the tiles have been removed and the concrete surface covered and adapted, we can move on to apply fibreglass and resin gel-coat directly rather than us make up a pre-formed tank back out our factory.  An additional advantage is that this finish can be tailored to the baptistry – steps can be easily accommodated and covered.  Better still, if there are already plug holes or other plumbing fittings, these can be temporarily removed and the GRP+gel coat finish can go right up to the hole.  Once the GRP finish has cured, the fittings can be replaced and waterproofed to a good surface.

If the tank were a concrete pit, it would need to be dry and dust-free.

Whikst not as well insulated as our preformed tanks, our lining introduces some much needed insulation, which is very important with concrete pits, which are difficult to heat

Where it does differ from our pre-formed baptistry tanks is that the finish is not structural or weight-bearing.  Whereas our tanks can support lids, these can not.  Whereas as our pre-formed tanks will hold the water, this is a ‘skin’ and the load-bearing comes from the surrounding timber or wall.   Also, this directly applied GRP has a light texturing and is not mirror flat as those made in a mould.  However, as we put a light texture on our steps anyway for Directly applied GRP finishincreased grip, it is a very minor issue.

Such a finish would be more durable than membrane and tiles and certainly need less maintenance.  It will almost certainly be cheaper, certainly in the long-run. If you are a church looking to reline a baptistry, do consider directly-applied fibreglass.

Design Your Own Baptistry

We make the pools off timber moulds, so we can make changes very easily.  So, once you’ve made sure you have the space and it will get in the building, what can you design?

Going back to getting the baptismal in the building, we can make pools in two sections which then join together at installation.  This might be useful if there are narrow doors, corridors or stairways to negotiate.

Based on the dimensions  churches keep asking for, the space needed to baptise someone is 2.1m long by 1.5m wide and about 1.2m deep.  This gives space to baptise a tall person and have two helpers in the pool.  The water can be filled to about 1m deep.

You can either have the steps jutting out from this tank or, if the tank is made larger, the steps can be inside.  An important thing to know is that the depth of the pool (1.2m for example) becomes the extra length you have to add on for the steps.  So, if the central baptismal area of the pool is 2.1m  long, a set of steps would make the whole pool 3.3m long.  The deeper the pool, the more of your baptistry you have to use for steps!

The steps can be the full width of the baptistry tank or just, say, 1m wide.  One set of steps is the most frequent choice but many churches have two sets of steps.  The steps usually go on one of the short edges because this makes it easier to transport and fit into he buildings.  Steps can go on the long sides to make a T-shape or a cross-shape.  Steps can  go anywhere.  If space is tight, the steps can inside the baptistry – one church had two sets of steps coming down the back wall of the tank that met in the middle so it felt like people were coming on stage.

When it comes to size, the real limits are the access into he building, transport costs and the lids!  Once the baptistry gets above 1.5m wide, the way the lids have to be made changes a bit and this makes them a bit heavier and a little bit more expensive.

Now for filling and emptying the pool.  When it comes to emptying a pool, many churches can’t use a plug and drain the water away because, once the baptistry is in the ground, it is too low down.  Not a problem.  We make the baptismal with a small sump in one corner.  A submersible pump and pipe can be used to pump the water out and into a drain.   We can fit in with however you want to fill or empty your pool.  If you want taps and overflows, this is not a problem – we can mould in recesses to fit and, better still, it has no cost implication.  Filling and emptying a baptistry is one of those topics best sorted early on in the project.  Please give me a call as I’m happy to chat.

Post Easter offers

Just to announce – after Easter is usually the time when Ruth has exhire baptistries that are on offer.

Current special offers

We have some really great deals available – only while stocks last, so if you’re interested, get in touch straight away!

Our Galilee is a great option for quick set up and keeping the water warm for hours.

Galiliee

We have one last refurbished Galilee Baptistry on offer.  A vimeo of the celebration of 20 baptisms is free to view here.

Just £1300 plus VAT gets you a Galilee and your equipment. This pool can be filled from a hot tap, but a heater if you require one is just £280 plus VAT (£336 in total). Delivery is free if payment is made before delivery.

The standard Galilee is 7 foot long and 5 foot wide and 68cm deep. It comes in 6 pieces that wingnut together very easily. The pool is robust and insulated: the water can hold its temperature for many hours when the covers are on.

We can even offer a payment plan if you’d prefer: £900 before delivery then the remainder in 7 monthly payments of £103.21. There is no free delivery with the payment plan but delivery is included in the costs given.

 

Nonagon and Croydon limited edition new baptistries: our most popular baptistries combining a spacious design with compact storage and easy set up

Nonagon flatpack baptistry

Our Nonagon is made of nine panels, the Croydon has an extra panel for more space.

We’re very lucky that one of our semi-retired British makers is making a few baptistries at a discount. We have two in stock in a neutral cream colour.

This means you can have a six foot Nonagon baptistry for just £1350 plus VAT including all equipment and a 2.4 heater heater – saving £450.

A seven foot Croydon is just £1550 plus VAT including all equipment and 2.4 heater – saving £450.

If you are not in a hurry he can also make the baptistry in the colour of your choice choosing any colour from the RAL card system. These baptistries have a lovely highly polished reflective surface.

Delivery is free if payment made before delivery. Or take advantage of our payment Plan: Nonagon, £900 before delivery then 7 monthly payments of £114.30; Croydon, £900 before delivery the 7 monthly payments of £142.85.

 

Our smaller Hexagonal pool at an amazing price

hexagon special offer pool

Our beautiful real wood baptistry has served well as a hire model and now needs a forever home. At five feet in diameter and including all new equipment and liner it is available at just £650.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can’t see what you need, you can find our full list of all our baptistries here. If you’d like to know more or want something a little different, just give us a ring on 0345 230 1381. With over a decade’s experience, we’ll help you find the right solution for your church.

Why you ring 0345 230 1381

Telephone operators, 1952

0345 numbers were released in 2007 to create new phone numbers that weren’t linked to a particular area, unlike the previous 01- and 02- codes.

For us, having an 0345 number means that we can staff our phones at all times, no matter where everyone is. It means that you won’t miss us, whatever happens: if the phone lines are down or one of us is off sick we can adapt and make sure your call still gets through.

However, because some phone number types have high charges, we’re aware that numbers other than 01- or 02- can worry people. So we want to reassure you that we cannot legally make any money from the 0345. It costs you the same as an 01- or 02- number. We have tried some other alternatives in the last six months but they’re not stable enough to rely on. It’s simply a practical solution that helps us make sure you can always get through.

Occasionally we come across a customer who would rather not use our 0345 number. It’s not a problem and if that’s the case for you, just ring our mobiles or email us and we can organise an alternative number for you to use.

There’s some reassurance about how 0345 numbers work on the Area Codes website: http://www.area-codes.org.uk/0345-numbers.php

“All phone numbers beginning with 03 work in the same way. Although they differ from traditional landlines by not being linked to any specific location, they cost the same to call – this is a legal requirement put in place by the UK telephone regulator, Ofcom.”

New Wooden Baptistry – ‘The Violin’

Violin baptistry first ever(2)

Squeaks? Don’t fret…

Squeaks when you walk over your permanent installed Baptistry are pretty rare, but a few things can cause them and there’s some easy solutions, so there’s no need to fret.

Firstly, take a peek at where the baptistry and lids meet. If there are signs of abrasion, that’s likely to be where the noise has come from. On very wide pools, there can be a little flex in the lids and – while there’s no problem functionally – where there’s movement there can be a squeak.

As Baptistry UK’s owner is also an experienced church treasurer, we know you’ll appreciate a simple and cheap “hack” that will deal with the problem straight away. A small amount of vaseline (or any non-brand petroleum jelly…) works wonders when applied to the area that has caused the squeak.

For any really persistent squeaks, a thin foam padding may be the answer – although, as our lids are well fitted, do check that there is room to add foam to the seal. You can always talk to us too, with years of experience, we’ll work through the right solution for you.

Peace at last!